The impact of the World Social Forum on the people of Kibera: "a Failure" : Indymedia Kenya

show : Barcelona, Dublin, Naorobi.
date : Monday 22 January 2007
Apologies for poor sound quality, interview done with audio recorder held to earpiece of phone in call shop in Barcelona

listen to audio recording: http://indymedia.ie/attachments/jan2007/03_akibera_and_the_social_forum.ogg

((i))Africa - Ok so im on the phone here with pastor Nick Macharia who is speaking from Kibera, in Nairobi, in Kenya. The world social forum is on at the moment. Macharia can you tell us about the impact of the World Social Forum in Kibera, what people think about it, are they being listened to, are they getting a chance to tell their story to the world and can things be improved also?

M - People think it is quite a failure, the impact has not been felt in the slums because one, the participation of the people in the slum has not been realised. Because apart from the organisers, they are buying some tee-shirts and taking them to the slum "Kibera for peace" and marching, there isnt much. Because people on the ground dont know even what the world social forum is for and the ideals, and again the occasion the _____________________ its very far away from the slum. If people from the slum have to participate they have to pay more than a hundred shillings 2 and 4, and they are not able to raise that money because they live below the povery line, less than dollar a day, so if you tell these people to give 2 or 3 dolars to attend that meeting, then it does not bring anything to them. Initially we thought that the best way was to take ask at a meeting where the problem is. we dont see the need of people going outside kibera to speak about the problems of Kibera and there is space and everything is there in Kibera. I think if are to make impact the organisers will see the importance of going to the people who really need these services and cutting off those people who only want to make cash out of the situation.

((i))Africa - And is there talk of some of the independant media people coming out to Kibera?

M - Independant media - Yeah i recieved a telephone call from Daniela and she they told me about the kind of people who will be coming to Kibera to _________________ among the peole there and to see for themselves what we are doing there. And Im glad because _____________________________ in the afternoon, they told me we will meet here in town and go there and they are waiting to do some interviews and perhaps to give our overview over the whole thing.

((i))Africa - Aswell as the situation, what message can come from Kibera or is coming from kibera? Has Kibera something to tell the world, has it something to offer the world in terms of people working together or solidarity, or just trying to deal with situations as best you can?

m - I think the message is very clear that these people feel abused. Now that we are living in times when the information is accessible to them and now they know what they need and they can be able to ___________ more clear because they are more informed than they used to be. I think the message is if people are sincere to come and help the Kibera people they should come directly to them and give land assistance directly. But when that assistance goes through other stages sometimes they feel people are using them to make ______________ as they want.

((i))Africa - In terms of the housing situation, are things getting better or worse for the people in Kibera?

m - I think it is not right to even use the word house because houses are not there in the slum. You should call them ghettos or something because as far as i now from the stations of the courts? this a crown land, nobody can own a house there. They are not houses they are only some ineffectual things and these are not owned by the people who live in them,
they are owned by people who are wealthy. Because this is the only place which is near the town, many people move from rural areas, they want to come and look for greener pastures in the town, they will choose to come to Kibera where they can walk to the town to look for greener pasture and because of this you find that the issue of housing is not there becuase you can find one room with so many people living in the same room. Its quite pathethic because even toilets and other things like bathrooms and what have you, are not there.

((i))Africa - Ok, well we will do as best we can to try to get that message from Kibera out to the world and hopefully people will listen and find out more about Kibera and from that offer support more support or assistance or whatever in the future. So Macharia, thank you for your time and tell the people of Kibera that we are thinking about them and waiting to hear from them.

m - Yeah, thankyou very much.

relateed info about Kibera :
Macharias journey: Kibera and a story of Hope
http://kenya.indymedia.org/news/2007/01/450_comment.php#459

imc-org
http://www.indymedia.org/en/2007/01/878667.shtml
and
imc-ie
changing the world: collaboration needed
http://indymedia.ie/article/80584

NAIROBI, Nov 22 (IPS) - In just two months time the World Social Forum (WSF) will get underway in the Kenyan capital, Nairobi, marking the first instance in which Africa is acting as sole host of the event.

With the East African country also home to Kibera -- sometimes referred to as Africa's largest slum -- it could be argued that there is no more appropriate venue for the 2007 WSF. Where better to hold it than near one of the communities most affected by the social ills which the forum aims to combat?

Still, some in Kibera, which lies south-west of Nairobi, view preparations for next year's WSF with ambivalence. ...

read more on IPS
http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=35575

Peace March
From Kibera to Uhuru Park, for the opening of the World Social Forum 2007 in Nairobi
Author: Joan Apolonia Lobo
32 Images

found here : http://africa.peacelink.org/galleries/gallery.php?id=68

Il primo giorno di Social Forum a Nairobi, si apre con una marcia che parte da Kibera ed arriva nel centro di Nairobi, ad Huhuru park. Kibera e’ uno degli slum della città, composto da circa un milione di persone, ed è il piu’ grande di tutta l’Africa orientale.

Report in Italian I think, more at ...
http://www.reporterassociatiinternational.org/content/view/3054/2/lang,ar_AR/

“Kibera Social Forum”, ?

Fra qualche settimana si aprirà a Nairobi un’altra Conferenza Mondiale organizzata dal World Social Forum (WSF), che attirerà migliaia di persone da tutto il mondo per discutere i problemi globali specie quelli dei poveri e dalla prospettiva dei poveri. Infatti il WSF è un movimento indipendente, nato per iniziativa popolare, per la salvaguardia dei diritti dei poveri e del miglioramento della loro vita. ....

Sarebbe opportuno dare la possibilità a queste comunità di parlare in questi raduni”? Il rappresentante dei giovani degli slums che si è incontrato con il Segretario del WSF, il Sig. Cosmas Musyoka, ha lanciato la proposta di svolgere un incontro del WSF nella stessa Kibera che ha chiamato “Kibera Social Forum”, per poter presentare i loro problemi in un contesto reale, che già di per sé parlerebbe più eloquentemente di ogni discorso che gli esperti possono fare”. Per il Sig. Musyoka, uno dei problemi cruciali per chi vive negli slums è quello della proprietà della terra. Se loro non possono diventare proprietari del terreno su cui la loro piccola capanna o anche solo camera è costruita, c’è sempre il pericolo di essere sfrattati.

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more at
http://it.ismico.org/content/view/1738/63/

Trevor Ngwane 29.01.2007 writing in imc-de
http://de.indymedia.org/2007/01/167151.shtml

The WSF was smaller than usual. It was dominated by NGOs (the stalls) and the churches (the opening march). Some Christian fundamentalists even protested demanding that a statue depicting a pregnant young woman be removed from the cross it hung upon (the statue was in support of reproductive rights for women). The latter incident prompted some comrades to include in the statement of the social movements that organizations not in line with the WSF politics should not be allowed to attend.
The WSF was visibly commercialized with the cellphone company Celtel doing the registration and linking this to comrades buying a Celtel simcard. Celtel adverts were all over the show. The worst part is that it is more expensive in Kenya to use Celtel than the other cellphone company Safaricom. The restaurants inside the WSF precinct were pretty expensive and there were many vendors selling water that at times cost at least double the usual Kenyan price.

Kenneth Kaunda addressed the beginning of the march and a few hours later he gave a 40-minute speech at the opening rally. His line was anti-poverty and reconciliation (between rich and poor, Jew and Palestinian, etc.) I heard from a comrade that she saw the Organising Committee of the WSF in Kenya having dinner with a minister at the Hilton hotel. But the worst part for many comrades was that many local Kenyans could not attend the WSF because they had either not been informed and/or could not afford the 500 shillings charged at the gate (100 shillings = R12.50, I think). As a consequence some workshop sessions were devoid of any Kenyans, indeed some did not have any Africans, or were dominated by "Northerners", mostly academics who, to be fair to them, mostly support or claim to speak for the movements.

The frustration with the picture painted above, especially entering the WSF gates but leaving locals locked outside, was expressed at a meeting whose aim was to prepare for the Assembly of the Social Movements to be held on the last day of the WSF. This meeting elected 4 comrades to raise these concerns with the Organising Committee. During the meeting it emerged that the co-ordinator of the Kenya Social Forum and at least one member of the Organising Committee were also unhappy about this situation. They told the meeting that they had repeatedly raised the issue of entry fees but had been overruled or outvoted by other committee members. In the meeting a Kenyan comrade gave a riveting speech about how they felt left out as they had no money to pay and as a result they had decided to have their own meeting, a "people's parliament" in a venue nearer to the struggling masses of Kenya.

I was part of the delegation chosen to meet with the Organising Committee but we failed to make contact with them on the same evening. But the following morning I met with 2 of the committee members including its chairperson Professor Oyugi. I conveyed the meeting's concerns but both were rushed and promised to look into the matter although Comrade Oduor, the other committee member, was quickly on the defensive. By the following morning the frustration was high and we decided to storm the gates to allow the Kenyans in for free. About 200 Kenyans got in free this way but later in the day it emerged that the gates were again locked for those who did not have 500 shillings. We also heard that the fee had been reduced to 50 shillings. The South African comrades saw a parallel with the South African government's indigency policy and together with other comrades from other countries and movements rejected this.

We eventually secured a meeting with the Organising Committee where 3 of us met Prof Oyugi and Comrade Taoufik (secretary of the African Social Forum). I was with Comrade Daniella, a Canadian from the Women's March and Comrade Emily from Benin. Unfortunately the other delegate (from the People's Parliament) could not make it as they could not get through without the official name tag which you only get if you are registered. The meeting was really bad with Oyugi raving and accusing us of lack of democracy and basically saying we were coming from the North and South Africa (a kind of northern state in Africa) to undermine Kenyan processes. To be fair to him he confessed that he was flustered and angry because during the day he had been confronted by demonstrators who were raising the same issues with him. Earlier he had half-jokingly accused me of sending "my boys" to deal with him. We left in disgust (and demoralization) with no clear answer from the Organising Committee.

The next day we again planned to storm the gates but found police and army reinforcements at the gates. Those officers carried very big guns. Comrades decided to block the main road until the people were allowed in for free. This action took about half an hour and then the gates were opened. The crowd than marched to the Organising Committee's offices to demand a change of policy on the question of entrance. Another demand was added: free water inside the WSF precinct and cheaper food. The demonstration found no one in the offices and then gatecrashed a press conference where a member of the committee announced under pressure that henceforth all entrance would be free. I did not get clearly how they responded to the other demands (water, food, commercialization). Comrade Njoki, another member of the Organising Committee, was shouted down by the crowd when she repeated the Oyugi line that northerners were undermining local processes because these were controlled by Africans (which seemed to me like a roundabout way of saying we were racists).

The atmosphere changed for the better inside the WSF with locals being able to come in and out as they please. I attended at least one session by a local movement fighting against evictions that would not have been a success if an entry fee had been demanded from its participants. They simply could not afford it. But comrades were still unhappy as it emerged from a newspaper widely distributed in the WSF that the most expensive restaurant inside the precinct belonged to the Kenyan minister of internal security, known as "the crusher" for his strong arm tactics (which he honed as a servant of the colonists and later as minister of transport when he sorted out the taxi industry and substantially reduced the road accident rate). A demonstration was organized to occupy his restaurant called Windsor Hotel which had pride of place at the center of the WSF area while other eat-houses were located further away in food courts. As things turned out scores of Kenyan children, many who were street kids, enjoyed a free lunch as the protesters liberated the food and served the hungry children.

These 2 incidents, storming the gates and expropriating the hotel food, were organized by a minority but somehow spoke for the majority of those participants who felt that their WSF was being hijacked by our class enemies. I met many comrades, including locals, who congratulated the steps taken to rectify matters. Later I was asked to chair the Assembly of the Social Movements and I have no doubt that this was because of being part of the 2 actions. The Assembly approved enthusiastically and supported the demonstrations ex post facto. My co-chair was Comrade Wa'hu who sits on the Organising Committee. She was apparently driven to support the actions, or at least not oppose them, because on both occasions at the gate she was present and was given a platform to explain the committee's entrance policy. Her chairing of the Assembly indicated that there was no intention of rejecting the committee, let alone the WSF, but rather we had taken the necessary action to rectify an injustice which we found intolerable within our space.

In conclusion, I was involved in a debate with Comrade Chico Whitaker and other prominent comrades of the WSF on whether the WSF should be a "space or movement". This was in the context of a discussion of the Bamako Appeal, a document issued by Samir Amin and other comrades suggesting a political way forward for the WSF. My opinion is that the "space or movement" debate in a way is a false debate. Sometimes it looks like one of those debates that start and end in the mid-air preoccupations of the professional middle class, especially if we consider the millions and millions who were absent from the WSF and who know nothing about this debate. Ordinary working class and poor people need and create and have a movement of resistance and struggle. They also need and create and have spaces for that movement to breathe and develop. The real question is what place will the WSF have in that reality. What space will there be for ordinary working class and poor people? Who will shape and drive and control the movement? Will it be a movement of NGO's and individual luminaries creating space for themselves to speak of their concern for the poor? Will it be undermined by collaboration with capitalist forces? I think what some of us saw happening in Nairobi posed some of these questions sharply and challenged some of the answers coming from many (but not all) of the prominent NGO's and luminaries in the WSF.

its good to hear that the people decided to take some action against what the wsf committee was doing (charging high entrance fees, providing expensive food and drinks). The argument that their 'Kenyan processes' is stupid because everyone can see that they were just trying to create an exclusive atmosphere and close out the general public. it seems that this happens a lot in kenya with prominent organizers and activists, they just want to show how great they are and don't actually care too much about the 'cause' they are supposedly fighting for. its all about me me me, look at what a great person i am, take a picture of me planting this tree, etc etc. So its good to see the people taking this back and making it what it should be. wish i could have been there. i especially like the liberating of the food from windsor hotel to feed the people, very nice. hopefully we'll see some more actions like this and some better networking between activists and groups in kenya and africa in general.